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Fascinating piece, thank you. Incredibly useful. This makes me want to stagger using natto, lumbro and aspirin, just to be safer. And I hadn't realised that empty stomach was best either. I'm going to start off with the natto, and increase my dose compared to last time. Thanks again.

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Is it possible there might be any benefits to taking nattinokase during the acute phase of infection?

I’ve only heard people talk about it when treating long Covid, but what about as a supplement during initial infection?

Thank you so much!

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I associate long covid with any contact with Covid, including shedding from housemate's shots. My 50/yr wife got two Pfizer jabs three months before she told me (unjabbed). She delayed telling me because three times I emphatically forbade her from taking the shot. I laid down my law and she rebelled. I was not wise; I should have begged her. I was insistent because I was a combat vet and the most pre-combat tedious training I took was mitigation (protection) of battlefield nuclear, biological and chemical particulate weapons. I have a distant son (3 Pfizer jabs), and grandson (2 Pfizer jabs) that I visit about 7 times a year and often with my wife. I get symptomatic being in the same room with them, even now a year later. In Spring 2021 (after my wife was jabbed, I developed a "self-diagnosed" blood clot in my right calf muscle". It was the size of a half-dollar coin. It got noticeably tight and painful when I over exerted myself (mowing, and stair climbing). It never moved and always stayed the same size and calmed down within 15 minutes of no longer mowing. I bought Mercola.com's Lumbrokinase (2,000 FU) and Serrapeptase (20,000 SPU) and followed label instructions. My "half-dollar coin size" tight spot disappeared within about two weeks and has remained so for over a year (and I was not more active since then). I keep taking these daily about 4-5 hours before breakfast because I am ADHD and a 56yr Tobacco-guy, also fond of beer. Just saying--it worked and still works for me. By the way, Dr. Thomas E Levy, MD, JD, published a book called Rapid Virus Recovery that addresses Covid; and he offers a free pdf download of the 320-page book @ https://www.rvr.medfoxpub.com/ When you get to the main page use the Search Icon and type in "Rapid Virus Recovery" that will take you to the download page. Dr. Mercola, OD interviewed him and recommended him. I take about half of Levy's recommendations--the ones most accessible to me. Ivermectin is not available to me. I do follow Levy and Mercola's Nebulization protocol that helps a lot and quickly.

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My smell was getting better over two weeks on Maraviroc/Statin but got worse slowly after I stopped taking it. Any survey on that combination?

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Thanks for this post!

I took 2000 FU of nattokinase three days in a row and that made me worse. Then I opened the capsule and poured out the powder to make capsules of 500 FU. That was just right. From there I slowly increased all the way up to 8000 FU. Titrating/start-low-go-slow works.

I made a YouTube video showing exactly how I made lower dose capsules, putting it here hopefully it helps people https://youtu.be/dG8m9VexgzY

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Can NK cause tinnitus? I started taking it May 10 and about 2 weeks later the tinnitus started. The only change in my life has been the addition of NK. I had Covid in Feb 2022 and received only the first and second Phizer vaccine, no booster in 2021.

Thank you so much for your help.

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I've had wonderful results after about 3 weeks, & now I'm wondering how long I should continue them. Chest pain lessened in first few days. By now, I'm actually feeling close to myself again except still short of breath too quickly & trying to build my strength & endurance back slowly. Any wisdom to share would be appreciated!

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Having done some internet research and reading a thorough article by Dr. Mercola, I've decided to try all three - Lumbrokinase (Boluoke), Serrapeptase, and Nattokinase. Dr. Mercola suggests alternating them to avoid allergy reactions. I've already started on Lumbrokinase (2/day on empty stomach), and am searching for which brands & dosages are best for the other two. Zazzee Naturals seems to have a good Serrapeptase if the reviews are to be believed. It has 120,000 SPU and they suggest 1/day. I'm struggling to find the right Nattokinase. I'm looking for enteric coated and soy free. I would appreciate any help on this.

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This is very interesting. Would this be safe to take while receiving IVIG? I ask because it may affect clotting? I am reviewing IVIG for autonomic neuropathy and small fiber neuropathy post Covid infection (March 2020). I have many issues that this may not help with; neuropathy and dizziness but the ME issues and brain fog might be helped by it so I wanted to ask. Thank you.

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This information on Nattokinase has IMPROVED my daily quality of life!! For 3 years, I’ve had ME/CFS symptoms, POTS symptoms, severely worse anxiety and depression; along with so many other little things like needing to sleep after eating. I’ve only been taking 2 capsules of 100mg in the morning so far, and it’s almost completely taken away my upper left/central chest pain. I plan to titrate up and see what else it helps me with!! I can’t thank you enough for this info.. truly changed my life for the better. God bless you and everyone involved!!

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Thank you for this. For those like myself who have had (unrelated) total colectomies, enteric coated formulations are often pointless, but given the degradation in stomach acid is there still potential benefit in taking other forms of nattokinase? And is there a reputable brand that will dissolve in the stomach if so?

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Thanks your help has been really valuable in trying out Natto. Do you know if it's necessary to titrate down if stopping for an operation, or is it fine to stop all at once?

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I'm curious how do you know which capsules are stomach acid resistant?

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Sorry if silly question. Some of your recommendations have Nattokinase and Serrapeptase (Doctors best) others just Nattokinase (Good Health Naturally) . Does it matter which one we purchase? Its for our teenager 16.

Many thanks,

Paul

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One of my long Covid side effects is chest tightness and low heart rate. I already have normal-low blood pressure. Does Nattokinase lower already low BP and HR? I guess I'm interested in the mechanism. Also does soy protein remain in the supplement? Sorry, if that sounds naive! Thank you!

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Thank you for your great work!

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